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I don’t now really what my brother and I were thinking trying to rip these rapids, but I suppose when you’re in the element anything is possible. So we bailed immediately after entering these things. Cat 5 rapids + canoe = disaster. Normally this set is much lower, but with all the rain this spring the water is 8 feet above normal. No matter what though the feeling of not knowing whether you are going to live or die is always a good time.